Do you Liberals really believe that Hasan just "snapped"

[Dementia_Madness]

Christianity, like all religions (including Islam), CAN be a detriment to world peace and security ... if the wrong people have too much power. All one has to do is study history to see what happens when Christians, Muslims, etc. have had unbridled power in the past. There have been more wars started by Christians in the name of their religion than for any other reason in Western history. That is why our founders were smart enough NOT to set up a theocracy or a government based on Christianity (a Christian "sharia law" if you will).

I agree to some degree FL, in the past there were people who CLAIMED to be Christians who committed vile acts, even today the same can be said, but you failed to actually answer the question, The question is not has it been or can it be but  -

"IS" it  a detriment to world peace and US security?

Plus it could be argued just the same that in the past it was the political influences that corrupted those so called Christians, and that is why our founders set up a government that had no power in establishing a state religion, to protect the faith from political influence rather than protect the politics from influences of faith, it is even a FACT that the majority of contemporary writings and even their own words speak to this. "In God we trust."

[Dementia_Madness]

You're as much a   as Knowledge if you think that was a typing error. There is no "h" before or after the letter "t" in half-wit.

FL have you ever not intended to type one word, but typed another altogether, just because the "h" is not near the "t" does not mean that that was an instance of muscle memory taking over as sometimes happens when typing.

Do I need to post YOUR typing error which is apparently a misspelling as the letter is in the middle of the word... tell me how do you spell master is it mastur (just a hint not the actual word)? (I really do not want to as it is a vile vulgar post as is usual with you.)

it's really amusing as to what you liberals are willing to argue about...

[Flummoxed Lummox]

I agree to some degree FL, in the past there were people who CLAIMED to be Christians who committed vile acts, even today the same can be said, but you failed to actually answer the question, The question is not has it been or can it be but  -

"IS" it  a detriment to world peace and US security?

Plus it could be argued just the same that in the past it was the political influences that corrupted those so called Christians, and that is why our founders set up a government that had no power in establishing a state religion, to protect the faith from political influence rather than protect the politics from influences of faith, it is even a FACT that the majority of contemporary writings and even their own words speak to this. "In God we trust."

Oh of course. All the wars, including the Crusades, were started by "fake" Christians. Tens of thousands of men were willing to die to kick the Muslims out of the Holy Land, but they weren't "true" Christians.  Got it.

I guess that means 9-11 was the result of "fake" Muslims too.

As for Knowledge's "half with" denunciation, I don't care if it was a spelling error or just ignorance. It's funny as hell for him to call anyone a "half with." I think from here on we should all refer to Knowledge as "Half With." It's only fitting. 

[Flummoxed Lummox]

NC,

Is Islam a detriment to world peace and US security?

Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Al Queda, etc. etc.

I'll answer that. The religion itself, no. Fanatics who follow Islam, they are a detriment to world peace and security. Same for all religions.

[KNOWLEDGE]

Isn't it comical that the guy who thinks the world was formed when a bunch of gasses exploded and that he evolved from apes is questioning anyone's intelligence!!

Congratulations on catching a typing error on my behalf.     If that makes you feel superior for a few seconds, knock yourself out.   But, if you are making a big deal of that, your argument on the subject must really be weak.

Your answer regarding Islam as not being a detriment to world peace further confirms your ignorance.

[roustabout]

There have been more wars started by Christians in the name of their religion than for any other reason in Western history.

Now that is funny right thar. What other religion was there is 'Western' history? This only shows how ignorant you are of history. You know nothing of the Crusades.

If China set up shop in California with a massive military base under their control, a prison where they put Americans without trial or charge, tortured them, assigned our oil and other natural resources to Chinese companies, leaving millions of Californians in abject poverty while a few California leaders and the Chinese business owners lived in opulent luxury, what do you think the odds are of Christian "terrorists" emerging.  Do you think that Christians would be involved in wars all across this country to fight the Chinese as they move their influence westward.

You think the problem with Islam is a recent problem? You only reveal your ignorance of the situation. Sure NC, you are right. It is all America's fault. The problem with Islam didn't originate until the evil America went to the Middle East. Oblivious.

[Dementia_Madness]

Do you really want to debate about the crusades? let me ask, what started the crusades? who were the crusades faught against and why? I am not talking about the crusades (when speaking of "fake Christians"....some may have used the crusades for political means, but in the beginnings the crusades was a christian reaction to what?

As for 9/11 and "fake" Muslims, I ask you this the answer is in the questions, IF so called Christians do acts that are against EVERY teaching of Christian faith, are they indeed Christians or simply people taking the name of Christ for their own ends (as CHRIST himself told us would indeed happen) and these so called Muslims are they indeed acting against the teachings of the Muslim faith or not?

I can call myself an atheist and build hospitals and schools and give to charity, but that does not mean I following the teachings of atheism. If I say I am a Hindu, yet reject the very teachings of the Hindu faith am I Hindu?

Stalin was an atheist and a socialist, which one of these beliefs drove him to do all the terrible wicked and evil things he did his faith or his politics? Was he simply a fake socialist or a fake atheist? The difference between this is Christianity has to be twisted and warped to use it as an excuse for evil, while atheism and socialism simply have to be embraced and acknowledged in their true pure states. One could ask, is Islam warped and twisted to create jihads, or is it it's true pure state..can anyone offer evidence to either argument (I could but I will not)?

[Flummoxed Lummox]

Isn't it comical that the guy who thinks the world was formed when a bunch of gasses exploded and that he evolved from apes is questioning anyone's intelligence!!

Congratulations on catching a typing error on my behalf.     If that makes you feel superior for a few seconds, knock yourself out.   

Your answer regarding Islam as not being a detriment to world peace further confirms your ignorance.

Half With,

1. I don't think the world was formed when a bunch of gasses exploded.

2. Neither do I think I evolved from an ape.

3. Islam, nor Christianity, are threats to world peace. It's the loons who follow them that are the threats.

Get your facts straight before you continue to show yourself to be a half-wit.

[KNOWLEDGE]

Name me all of the recent wars and terrorist acts done in the name of Christianity.     While you are at it, name me all of the nations who have leaders screaming for death to another nation in the name of Christianity or because the other nation is not Christian.   

 

[Dementia_Madness]

To tell the truth, I know what the biggest threat to world peace is... It's HATE, and it selfishness, it's the sinful and wicked nature of fallen man.

Revolutions, Institutions, and constitutions will not save us, the only thing that will save us is the acknowledgment of the TRUTH of what is right and what is wrong, and turning from the wrong and embracing the right....without an understanding of right from wrong we will continue to spiral down into the depths of depravity and self-consumption.

[KNOWLEDGE]

To tell the truth, I know what the biggest threat to world peace is... It's HATE, and it selfishness, it's the sinful and wicked nature of fallen man.

Revolutions, Institutions, and constitutions will not save us, the only thing that will save us is the acknowledgment of the TRUTH of what is right and what is wrong, and turning from the wrong and embracing the right....without an understanding of right from wrong we will continue to spiral down into the depths of depravity and self-consumption.

I'd add greed to that list.    Some nations and their leaders just want more land, more money, more power, etc.

Hey Mondo, do you think it was just the "extremist" Nazis who caused all of the problems in the 1930s and 1940s?

[Dementia_Madness]

I'd add greed to that list.    Some nations and their leaders just want more land, more money, more power, etc.

Hey Mondo, do you think it was just the "extremist" Nazis who caused all of the problems in the 1930s and 1940s?

Yes my friend and all of that falls under the term "selfishness."

As for the Nazis, socialism is always an easy way out, it is the ultimate goal of fairness, in other words everyone is the same (except for the elites who control everything) but the normal people the lower cast are all equally miserable.