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 on: June 28, 2017, 07:56:42 PM 
Started by Darth_Mondo - Last post by Plumbervol
So you are saying liberals are infringing on your "right" to evangelize that violates your right to free speech? If you preach on TV I have the choice to turn the channel. If you knock on my door to preach I can ask you to leave my property or slam the door in your face. If you use government decree to evangelize that is not freedom of speech that is a violation of the 1st Amendment “respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” The Constitution only forbids government sponsorship and compulsion of religious exercise by individual citizens but it does not allow an exclusion of religion and religious persons from public affairs of state. On the other hand it does not allow a so called religious scumbag from refusing to do his job because someones behavior that is legal does not meet that persons definition of moral behavior. You cannot prevent that person from activities available to every other citizen including publicly walking around as a transgender cross dresser.

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 on: June 28, 2017, 02:49:08 PM 
Started by Darth_Mondo - Last post by Darth_Mondo
When the secular world's "morals" label my religious thought and speech as "hate speech" and begin to legislate laws against me and my brothers, then it becomes a big deal.  Not using "proper gender pronouns" and opting not to serve homosexuals in service industries has now become the grounds for the law to unconstitutionally infringe on my rights to free speech.   

Exactly JR, PV says you should not be free to express your opinion openly about what is right or wrong, but, it is okay for him to express his openly about such, because he will remove the label of "faith" from it and claim he is speaking from "science" they redefine what truth is and then call it hate. The sad thing is they are too ignorant and blind to see they are chopping their own legs off, and that's why they must lie cheat and steal to maintain power.

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 on: June 28, 2017, 10:44:41 AM 
Started by Darth_Mondo - Last post by Jeremy Roenick
@ MRM, yeah I saw that.  It's an epidemic nationally.  Peeping Toms in Targets all over the country now.  That surely wasn't an expected outcome of their policy...   ::)

Hit this link, it's sad.  https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylc=X3oDMTFiN25laTRvBF9TAzIwMjM1MzgwNzUEaXRjAzEEc2VjA3NyY2hfcWEEc2xrA3NyY2h3ZWI-?p=peeping+toms+in+target&fr=yfp-t&fp=1&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8

@PV, it ain't no apples and oranges dude.  When the secular world's "morals" label my religious thought and speech as "hate speech" and begin to legislate laws against me and my brothers, then it becomes a big deal.  Not using "proper gender pronouns" and opting not to serve homosexuals in service industries has now become the grounds for the law to unconstitutionally infringe on my rights to free speech.   

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 on: June 28, 2017, 10:28:19 AM 
Started by Just Win - Last post by Jeremy Roenick
Oh yeah.  I travel regularly on business and stay in Holiday Inn Expresses (points program) all over the south and every single lobby and breakfast area has CNN on the tv.  It's annoying.  I'll pick a seat for breakfast as far from the tv as possible, and turn away from it.  I don't even wanna hear that crap.


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 on: June 28, 2017, 09:52:06 AM 
Started by Just Win - Last post by MRM
It was amazing to see when we were in DC last month how many places had CNN running on TVs all hours of the day. Out hotel had it running 24/7 in the lobby.

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 on: June 28, 2017, 09:50:21 AM 
Started by Darth_Mondo - Last post by MRM
Again, this is playing on both sides of the fence. The Constitution gives us the right to religion, but doesn't say it has to be a congregation. Yet, the left wants to shut up Christians for speaking about their faith outside of the church. Then the left says your religion doesn't matter if some gay people want you to bake them a cake for their gay wedding or marry them. It goes back to religion is fine as long as it's in your church building or in your own home, but you better not take it out in public.

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 on: June 28, 2017, 09:39:14 AM 
Started by Darth_Mondo - Last post by Plumbervol
It's not just the moralism of life PV....

Thanks to liberal progressivism we now have:

  • Peeping Toms in Target bathrooms across the country
  • Gay Pride parades that resemble a public Sodom & Gamorrah demonstrations in every major city
  • Foul mouthed liberal celebrities decrying Trump 24/7 on and off the air
  • The persecution and free speech infringement of Christians and Christian churches
  • The proliferation of free speech infringement and PERSECUTION based on gender pronouns
  • We now have drag queens reading books to school age children in public libraries across the country
  • And most recently, threats and ACTS of violence against conservatives or anyone who doesn't share their world view

Apples and Oranges IMO, I suppose what you are saying is that the agenda changed society instead of society changing the agenda.

Some of that list is stretching such as free speech, Christians are free to preach to their congregation about the evils of such actions. They are not free to impose their values and mores on the rest of a pluralistic society. I also watched the Conservatives treatment of Obama and wonder what friggin planet they are from? Good grief the hate venom and blatant racist treatment of Obama by the entire right is much worse that how Trump is being treated. Also Obama is/was a gentleman of high moral fiber and Trump is just the opposite.

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 on: June 28, 2017, 09:27:18 AM 
Started by Darth_Mondo - Last post by Darth_Mondo
So PV has managed to turn another thread into his foolish arguments about abortion and faith.... meh.

I think I did that. I tried to show a clear example of so-called liberal compassion.

That's okay MRM, in the end he turns it all into a faith issue, which shows what he truly stands against, he opposes opposition to abortion not because it's wrong or right but, as he says because in his mind it somehow is our ultimate morality trump card..... which is funny because it is the LEFT that has made it so, the same could be said of homosexuality, evolution, and even global warming. They don't quite stand for or against issues, but, rather people, and they pick and choose their morality based on what the people they want to hate stands for.

For what it is worth MRM abortion can be a perfect example of liberal's lack of true compassion, because it exemplifies the reality of how they want to frame the topic, in their view we base our compassion for the unborn solely on faith which is wrong, we base it on the fact that we see both the mother and child of equal value and we know that 100% of abortions harm, they harm the mother and the child. They want to be seen as compassionate towards the mother, because we can see the woman and know that she is in need, but, they can hide the need for the child because to them it is something that is hidden away, and can be debated, out of sight out of mind. Exemplifying the reality that it is appearance of compassion that they care about, rather than the results and reality of it.

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 on: June 28, 2017, 07:07:51 AM 
Started by Darth_Mondo - Last post by MRM
JR, there was a peeping Tom incident at the Clinton Hwy. Target a couple of weeks ago. I argued the guy should be allowed in there based on the left's, and Target's, stupid policy about who should be in which bathroom. All he had to do is say he identifies as a woman and they have no case against him.

There was also an incident over the weekend at one of the Gay Pride parades where someone showed up with a rainbow flag with the star of David on it. Those that brought the flag were persecuted, cussed at, and ran off. Yep, they sure are a compassionate bunch. ::)

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 on: June 27, 2017, 01:26:14 PM 
Started by Darth_Mondo - Last post by Jeremy Roenick
It's not just the moralism of life PV....

Thanks to liberal progressivism we now have:

  • Peeping Toms in Target bathrooms across the country
  • Gay Pride parades that resemble a public Sodom & Gamorrah demonstrations in every major city
  • Foul mouthed liberal celebrities decrying Trump 24/7 on and off the air
  • The persecution and free speech infringement of Christians and Christian churches
  • The proliferation of free speech infringement and PERSECUTION based on gender pronouns
  • We now have drag queens reading books to school age children in public libraries across the country
  • And most recently, threats and ACTS of violence against conservatives or anyone who doesn't share their world view

The liberal seeks to replace a moral world view with an emotional world view.  Man is his own master, his own god.  Moral relativism is cornerstone of liberal thought and ideology.  It will be the destruction of western civilization as we know it.

https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylc=X3oDMTFiN25laTRvBF9TAzIwMjM1MzgwNzUEaXRjAzEEc2VjA3NyY2hfcWEEc2xrA3NyY2h3ZWI-?p=peeping+toms+in+target&fr=yfp-t&fp=1&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8







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